tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post3181854681626873722..comments2023-05-07T10:36:29.851+01:00Comments on Hein de Haas: Let their people drown: Europe's self-inflicted migration crisisHein de Haashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04431782094676290011noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-57463729202835764892015-10-17T07:16:47.579+01:002015-10-17T07:16:47.579+01:00If you are concerned with veiled women, you should...If you are concerned with veiled women, you should be also concerned with long dresses and prayer caps used by Amish women and similar communities who are abundant in Pennsylvania. I guess you are not worried by them, probably because they don't have a dark skinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-35653532284966647742015-09-23T16:18:50.413+01:002015-09-23T16:18:50.413+01:001.Most of these commodities are manufactured in Ch...1.Most of these commodities are manufactured in China as part of the supply chain purely for economic reasons; availability of land, labour etc - this does not necessarily mean they are Chinese<br />2.The reason behind most of the refugees being young virile males is because they face the risk of being recruited into the fighting forces (regime, rebels and islamists) mostly against their will. Besides, the tiresome, long and dangerous journey requires the kind of endurance they possess as a demographic<br />3. Its true that the Arab nations you mentioned lag behind in taking in the refugees though they assist in monetary terms. Note as Professor Hein de Haas has always retariated that most of the refugees are in the neighbouring countries. The ones seeking refuge in Europe are just a negligible proportion of the population. <br />4. Refugees choosing Europe, ever better Germany and other wealthier nations offering comfortable perks is simply rationality. We are all wired to want the best. It would be a miscalculation to not expect this from them.<br />5. It is only today that the European Union has approved a plan to distribute 120,000 refugees among its member states. Germany expects to take in at least 800,000 refugees by the end of the year. I haven't heard any talk of an 'invasion' by members of a certain religious group. <br /><br />I choose not to respond to your other audacious comments about 'people like me' 'judging by my name' and the rest of the disdainful adjectives. You are after all entitled to your opinion. Nontheless , as you are European as you mentioned , if you'd make a friend out of a refugee , you just might encounter the kindest soul, a human being seeking an amicable non - violent environment just as any of us would.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04467701384367719501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-30654320737960954272015-09-23T14:18:25.921+01:002015-09-23T14:18:25.921+01:00Honorable, tolerant, helpful, reasonable, benevole...Honorable, tolerant, helpful, reasonable, benevolent, noble... just but a few, are the words that come to mind when I think of the word 'generosity'<br />But not so much when I see the high hungarian walls with humans strolling alongside it endlessly searching for a way through, tear gas, water cannons , an asylum seeker being handcuffed as his little girl watches wailing, the capsizing boats, the tiresome long distance trekking, police brutality, condescending newspaper headings...<br />As much as we may comprehend the dynamics of the legal structures of the process,and the need for them ,we seem to be lost in legal definitions 'Seek' 'grant' 'enjoy' 'arrive'. Though Germany is an example of best practice,there is general unwillingness to lift the veil and face the issue as it is -people in need of peace, serenity, tranquillity. <br />The day humans(read asylum seekers) will no longer be forced by set circumstances to embark on a real life Amazing Race,all the while dodging all manner of death snares while we watch in order to win the prize ( read seek and be granted asylum) ,is the day I will consider the word 'generosity'Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04467701384367719501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-18572390175266224122015-09-23T09:50:46.691+01:002015-09-23T09:50:46.691+01:00Jackline Mukami - Why don't you direct all you...Jackline Mukami - Why don't you direct all your demands of "International Obligation" to your fellow Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia or Qatar?<br />All your rants on "who is manufacturing these weapons that are being used in the war that is making the people flee? The boats being used? The smartphones?The navigation maps?" are just pure idiocy.<br />No one is forcing anyone to buy nor use anything, from smartphones to weapons. IT IS THEIR CHOICE. And let's not forget - all smartphones and weapons (at least the ones used in third world countries) are manufactured mostly in China, not in the "West".<br />"The civil war in Syria will eventually come to an end [...] And who do you think will be awarded this billion dollar rebuilding contracts?". Here we go again: IT WILL BE THEIR CHOICE. As we can see all over Middle East, it is mostly Japanese, Chinese and Saudis who get the bulk of "rebuilding contracts", not the "West", so again - your ignorance and stupidity is simply astounding.<br />Furthermore, as more and more Europeans noticed, the hordes of these so-called "refugees" that are currently coming to Europe are nothing but INVADERS. Refugees don't consist in 80%-90% of males in their 20s-30s!<br /><br />You dare to yell at us "Liberalisation must occur!" as if the "West" was some kind of Muslim area, without freedoms and under Sharia law! Only politically-correct liberal piece of brainwashed moron could demand more "liberalisation" from people of the "west". WE already ARE the most liberal on this planet, what you are asking for - actually demanding - is that we, the "West", simply give up our hard-worked-for prosperity and hand it to few million Muslim invaders.<br /><br />If you're so hell-bent for helping poor refugees from Northern Africa and Middle East, why aren't you campaigning in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and other rich and prosperous Muslim countries that are just in the neighborhood of these refugees? Why those countries are not under "International Obligation", why they don't take millions of Muslim brothers refugees into their countries? It is much, much safer for these "refugees" to flee to neighboring Muslim countries instead of making dangerous trip across the sea, yet they prefer Europe - why is that? The answer is simple: it is because our welfare systems are much more generous than what they could ever expect from their fellow Muslims and no one would let them live on social welfare for years in i.e. Saudi Arabia, while in Germany or France they can live better than working in a Muslim country and without working a single day in their whole life. <br />But that is only one of the reasons why they come to Europe.<br />Such mass-migration of few million people can not be spontaneous, and as I suspected from beginning we can already see that it is indeed yet another Muslim invasion of Europe. Someone is sponsoring this migration, the pamphlets and "migrant's handbook" don't print themselves out of the blue... Anyways, the truth about it will come out sooner or later.<br /><br />As European I refuse to help invaders trying to conquer my country.<br />As for you - judging from your name you have vested interest in helping these "refigees" - I feel nothing towards you but disgust. People like you, asking Europeans about "International Obligations" and in the same time closing their eyes on their Muslim brothers' lack of help - are either disgusting propaganda specialists, or simply useful idiots. There is no other explanation for your despicable posts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982361784143199351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-31322810831216251542015-09-16T04:12:26.266+01:002015-09-16T04:12:26.266+01:00Anonymous 4 September. I understand that people wo...Anonymous 4 September. I understand that people would like to have simple solutions even to complex problems but this is not the case for migration. It is not about deciding to sink boats or accept everybody, but many decisions are necessary and many actions in multiple sectors, considering that each of them may bring advantages and several drawbacks at the same time.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696634968025693912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-3078090560483757252015-09-16T04:08:03.360+01:002015-09-16T04:08:03.360+01:00Jackline, I think that generosity is the right ter...Jackline, I think that generosity is the right term, because "international obligations" in this case are not so definite as the term would suggest. People who believe to need international protection have the right to seek asylum, non necessarily to receive it, because conceding asylum is a sovereign decision of individual countries, which decide in accordance with their judgement, capacity and willingness to accept refugees. This is proved by the huge differences in rate of approval of different countries. In Europe some accept 80% of requests, some less than 10%. But there is a legal justification for this. When the Geneve convention was negotiated, one of the final draft stated that these people have "the right to seek and to be granted asylum" but the final text only included "right to seek and to enjoy." Those who accept refuges are not therefore forced to do so and act mainly for generosity, even if I agree that they could receive some advantages from this generosity, especially in the case of Syrians who are arriving now, who are part of the professional and educated middle class, the only one able to pay the high fees required by smugglers. I don't comment the rest of your not new conspiracy theories on the responsibilities of developed countries on whatever bad happens in developing countries, which absolve the local rulers and make all seem victims.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696634968025693912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-41699179540403326732015-09-04T02:14:09.144+01:002015-09-04T02:14:09.144+01:00@Valerio Catuli the word here is not 'generosi...@Valerio Catuli the word here is not 'generosity' you might consider 'International Obligation'<br /> We seem to look at migration from war zones the desire to and actual seeking of refuge and a better life in the case of economic migrants in Europe and the West generally as an issue in isolation...<br />It's common knowledge that the West had been flourishing for centuries as a result of direct and indirect domination of the Peripherals. As long as this persists, the boats will always flow.<br />But that is not my point.<br />The civil war in Syria will eventually come to an end; it could take years, but on an optimistic model - it will end. And like has been the case with Somalia, South Sudan, Lebanon and other states that have recently been in or are getting out of conflict, reconstruction will begin. <br />And who do you think will be awarded this billion dollar rebuilding contracts? Yes! you guessed right! - The same nations that are currently viewing asylum seekers with apathy. The same leaders will shake hands with new leaders ( or even the same) and append signatures to documents that will ensure the continuance of the flow of currency outwards. The citizens of these nations many advocates of border controls will continue to enjoy privelege as they always have at the expense of their counterparts. <br />And who is manufacturing these weapons that are being used in the war that is making the people flee? The boats being used? The smartphones?The navigation maps? Should I continue?<br />Part of the reasons why the West is in a position to accommodate asylum seekers and migrants(and why they look in that direction anyway) is because they have benefited greatly and will continue to do so from economic domination of original countries of immigrants. Conflict or non Conflict zones.<br />In short,we are all entrenched into this global system. Immigrants are just a piece of the puzzle. A negligible piece nontheless .There is no way out! Liberalisation must occur!<br />So yes, letting migrants in, particularly those fleeing conflict zones is not 'generosity' on your part. Its 'International Obligation'<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04467701384367719501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-8217213666599887392015-09-04T00:31:37.701+01:002015-09-04T00:31:37.701+01:00The European response is half hearted. Whether you...The European response is half hearted. Whether you decide that the prohibition on migration should be lifted to allow free movement across borders or decide to deploy armed forces to sink migrant boats you have to do one or the other. No half arsed mix and match solutions. Personally I would happily sink any boat trespassing in my territory. But if we decide to let everyone in then let's do it. They say only a Sith deals in absolutes but enough faffing about already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-21512967806955850582015-08-13T07:20:07.101+01:002015-08-13T07:20:07.101+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11718316545131452777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-64258374478451063432015-08-13T07:19:00.422+01:002015-08-13T07:19:00.422+01:00Are you sure that admitting more people legally th...Are you sure that admitting more people legally the flow of boats through the Mediterranean will decrease? It seems that too many people want to come to Europe. More want to come than the Europeans would be ready to accept. I see the possibility that, after admitting more refugees resettled from refugee camps and economic legal immigrants, the flow of boats will be more or less the same as now or will increase, attracted by the new showed generosity. Could you give me some arguments (historical examples) to demonstrate that liberalizations will not increase the flows?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11718316545131452777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6661503369345934670.post-52698178110631250642015-08-03T12:50:02.567+01:002015-08-03T12:50:02.567+01:00Selling a business is a complex endeavor. A worst-...Selling a business is a complex endeavor. A worst-case scenario is closing the business doors and walking away after giving up on all dreams to get decent cash for years of hard work. In buying a business, you eliminate the risks related to start-ups. However, ready for use an already assembled car can drive you instantly. 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